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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: weedganja2013 on June 13, 2013, 03:34 am
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Please help me with the names of sellers who have successful experience to the Middle East... ;)
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cant you grow your own there?
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Here there's only medical marijuana ,hash is hard to find in my country..
Almost a year Serious dry, until you find something very high prices :(
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I always thought that the Middle East had an abundant supply of drugs.
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Police sit very tight on the border,Just for understanding 100 grams of hashish costs 1000$ here
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Please help me with the names of sellers who have successful experience to the Middle East... ;)
Here there's only medical marijuana ,hash is hard to find in my country..
Almost a year Serious dry, until you find something very high prices :(
To begin with you have to specify what country in the Middle East you're interested in as it won't have the same basic rules like for example most countries in Europe have. Another important detail is what product you're wondering about specifically, cannabis/hash or?
Police sit very tight on the border,Just for understanding 100 grams of hashish costs 1000$ here
That's actually not that far off from the prices in Sweden though, that's nowhere near as bad as it is in for example Japan.
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Now I found the question in itself interesting, so I've decided to do some digging on domestic distributors for the Middle East on Silk Road. To begin with one would need the definition for the Middle East, I'm basing this on the following wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East - in other word 17 countries. Here's how many listings I found by each respective country by switching my country location on another Silk Road user for each respective country:
Bahrain: 0
Cyprus: 0
Egypt: 0
Iran: 0
Iraq: 0
Israel: 0
Jordan: 0
Kuwait: 0
Lebanon: 0
Oman: 0
State of Palestine: 0
Qatar: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
Syria: 0
Turkey: 0
United Arab Emirates: 0
Yemen: 0
You weren't kidding around when you said the area is dry. :o
This basically concludes international is the only option available, but the question is how good are customs at intercepting packages in the different countries compared to for example Australia? I'm also fairly certain there's not that many buyers from the Middle East on Silk Road except for perhaps Israel, and they probably have a significantly more predictable postal service than the other countries. Anyway hopefully someone with personal experience is able to answer more specifically than me since I don't live in the Middle East. :)
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So here we go,
If we're talking about regular envelopes sent through regular mail, it's a 101%.
Anything else containing: pills, powder, etc.. get's caught, they send you a letter to go checkout at the airport, Yes airport; and that's the funny part - cause all they need is you to go to pay some fine to get this stuff tested!!! But as we Egyptians deal with our shitty government, they might just take a couple of 100's under the desk and release the package... I've only done that once in the airport w/Steroids; but pills came to the post office and they asked me for the prescription cause they have to check the page 'since it came in a CD pack' but I made the prescription note my self on MS Word. LOL
I know we live in a shithole, but hey that's the best part of it; eh?
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Police sit very tight on the border,Just for understanding 100 grams of hashish costs 1000$ here
That's actually not that far off from the prices in Sweden though, that's nowhere near as bad as it is in for example Japan.
And that's a freakin rip off, 100 grams are aprox 200$ here...
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If we're talking about regular envelopes sent through regular mail, it's a 101%.
Anything else containing: pills, powder, etc.. get's caught, they send you a letter to go checkout at the airport, Yes airport; and that's the funny part - cause all they need is you to go to pay some fine to get this stuff tested!!!
This either means the Customs Agency in Egypt declares all packages suspect until proven otherwise ( fine paid ) or there's so few packages coming in they have the time to inspect absolutely everything in detail. Either way that's a pretty crappy situation. ???
And that's a freakin rip off, 100 grams are aprox 200$ here...
If that's true and it's of comparable quality you could just start vending yourself - the profit margins would be huge if the shipments would make it. Until then the fact remains there is at the moment only one single Vendor in the entire Middle East ( Turkey ) on Silk Road and he's charging roughly $33 per gram for Hash. :o
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This either means the Customs Agency in Egypt declares all packages suspect until proven otherwise ( fine paid ) or there's so few packages coming in they have the time to inspect absolutely everything in detail. Either way that's a pretty crappy situation. ???
It's a mess in both ways, the only hard part is the airport thing, the other one is just a post office employee; though psychedelics are being treated as an international crime here since we don't have it made here, while hash and weed and so on are THAT close of being legalized after the second revolution ousting the Muslim Brotherhood from ruling, and getting back the old regime that want us drugged to do their dirty game again; anyhow I won't think of vending unfortunately. Why? I don't know but I think I'll fail in the stealthiness of the package, don't want to ruin the market or disappoint people, cause apparently hash, and tramadol are the top drugs here for a shitty low price, so I'm pretty sure that many have tried and failed.
That's just my 2 cents if anyone wanna add..
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anyhow I won't think of vending unfortunately. Why? I don't know but I think I'll fail in the stealthiness of the package, don't want to ruin the market or disappoint people, cause apparently hash, and tramadol are the top drugs here for a shitty low price, so I'm pretty sure that many have tried and failed.
I can almost guarantee there hasn't been an Egyptian Vendor attempting this on Silk Road so far at all, I have a few theories for why this might be:
* The Quality might not be so good after all, but without testing it or comparing it to other types it would be hard to say anything for sure.
* The Postal System might be setup in an extremely weird way making it very difficult to send shipments abroad without them inspecting each package manually.
* Not many in Egypt have sufficient grasp of English in combination with the technical know-how to use Silk Road and Bitcoin in general to be able to do it.
* Products arriving from Egypt will immediately get red flagged upon entry in any Country and closely inspected, especially since a Customs Declarations will always be needed ( unless Egypt has some kind of Middle Eastern treaty with other Countries in the Region I'm not aware of ).
* The risks are too high dealing with any illegal product to begin with, so no one dares to do it ( although this can't be entirely true if prices are that low, also sending them through the Mail should be safer compared to dealing in real life ).
* Everyone assumes someone else is already doing it and/or it can't be done better by them ( :P ).
I would suggest you ( and others from the Middle East ) look at it from this angle:
Most Countries in the Middle East will utilize Arabic, the fact that almost not a single Country in the Region is listing anything on Silk Road doesn't mean there's no demand or that there won't be in the future - now admittedly an Arabic Version of Silk Road would probably be a much better idea for this but the chances of this happening is not exactly high. Anyway if Egypt doesn't have any treaty with other Middle Eastern Countries to send shipments without Customs Declarations a treaty like that "will" be implemented within the coming ten years - if not they won't stand a chance to compete with Europe on anything whatsoever.
So the main point is any shipment from Egypt to any Middle Eastern country will ( hopefully ) look a lot let suspicious than say something from the Netherlands or Germany. Even if it's ( hypothetically ) a small market now sooner or later it will get very big and as long as it's illegal there is very little competition in terms of anyone offering a consistent Product and Service ( I'm assuming in this regard any people or establishment who are selling somewhat openly are paying heavy bribes to be able to do so at the moment ).
Just some food for thought. :)
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* The Postal System might be setup in an extremely weird way making it very difficult to send shipments abroad without them inspecting each package manually.
* Products arriving from Egypt will immediately get red flagged upon entry in any Country and closely inspected, especially since a Customs Declarations will always be needed ( unless Egypt has some kind of Middle Eastern treaty with other Countries in the Region I'm not aware of ).
That's true, we don't have a postal system/rules/regulations outlined to public, you just know that you're sending/receiving something illegal, you don't know who check them, what are the suspect-able sizes; I've tried breaking the rules of some postage companies other than local postage 'not drugs though' and it succeeded, went to Europe in 3 business days, but I just handed him the package, not knowing if he's gonna check it or not.
And yea regarding how you're not sure of the quality, I can assure you that we have more than enough of different things we can try at a very cheap prices, it's getting cheaper than cigarettes nowadays.